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Con drop and porn

You might be getting comments from me on old entries for a bit; I’m trying to catch up. On the other hand, maybe not; I need to have finished my Hamlet notes by this weekend.

Con drop, I has it. I was meant to be doing training – it got cancelled randomly; apparently the hotel took a different booking while the union was faffing about. I’m now revising instead. Only the others aren’t here and CON-DROPPING LIKE IT’S HOT. Argh.

Inspired by a conversation with

son_of_darkness:

Do you identify with characters you read, particularly in porn? Kye says he does, which is why femmeslash doesn’t work for him even though he likes the ladies – there’s no place for him when it’s all girlsex. By contrast, I very rarely identify with characters – when I read femmeslash, it’s the exact same relationship I have with slash. I suppose I sometimes identify with subs if there’s something specific there that echoes my own feelings rather precisely, but that’s not bound by gender and rarely happens anyway.

What about you? I’d be especially interested to hear from those of you who read both slash and femmeslash or het (or vice versa) – if there’s someone of your gender there, do you identify with them? In kinkfic, do you identify with the dom(me) or sub according to your preferences? *nosy face*

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Hmmm....*thinky face*

I read slash, femmeslash (when I can find it-Trek has little femmeslash in it-aren't enough female characters without genderswitch which I do love but I digress) and het. I enjoy reading relationship and usually the sex just feels like a progression or it can be that you can see their dynamic in that situation. That's not to say I don't read a PWP now again.

As a sweeping generalisation I generally don't relate to the people in sex scenes. With slash I just enjoy it, with femmeslash I occasionally think about what it would be like to be in a similar situation. I never relate to het though. I always feel like you can't measure up to the girl. It's always described like it's so easy.

With kink I can relate to either party. I'm a bit of a switch like that :P Although I do like hurt/comfort and relate to the one being comforted. I like being taken care of.

Hmm, what an interesting question. Let me go survey a selection porn so I can give you a properly scientific answer. >_> <_<

Obviously it depends on how well it's written, and for what purpose (as part of a plot-heavy fic, just a bit of PWP, &c), but I'd say I do identify with characters in porn, at least some of the time. Some of it probably lends more to watching from the outside than seeing things from one character's point of view... I guess it's also influenced by how much I relate to the particular character in general. In any case pretty much identify with all genders equally (though maybe if I found some porn with genderqueer characters I would relate extra-hard, but I can only remember one or two actually good fics in that vein atm).

Amusing anecdote: Up until a few years ago, before I figured some stuff out, kinkfic (especially het) used to squick me a lot of the time because I thought I had to identify with the girl, who seemed to always be the submissive one and/or had to identify with the sub 'cause I was female. It sort of took a criminally long time for that penny to drop. ._.

Edited 2010-04-08 13:35 (UTC)

Hmmm, I tend to identify with characters even in PWP. As strange as it may sound, that's why I prefer slash over femmeslash. I simply don't identify with the female characters as much as with the male characters, maybe with a couple of exceptions. As for kinky porn, I identify with the Dom, but there's a partof me that identifies with the sub as well, and I do tend to write from the sub's POV more often than from the Dom's. I deeply cherish the sub too :)

Guess I wasn't of much help :P

I've never really understood what people mean by 'identify with' in this sense. I don't imagine myself as one of the characters, or doing the things they're doing in porn scenes, but I do emotionally relate to what's going on with the characters - if I'm not emotionally relating to them, I tend to get bored and backclick. It definitely depends on the dynamic of the scene, though, because emotion-laden scenes make me think about the characters, whereas anonymous sex scenes (which are generally much less character driven) make me think more about bodies fucking & less about what's going on in their heads.

When I read other people's comments about how they do identify with the characters in porn, I always like though maybe I'm missing the point :-/

It depends on how well written it is and whether it hits my buttons. If it's technically good but doesn't push my buttons, then it just leaves my buttons.

It also depends on the character. I can't identify with Hermione at all, so it could be the best fic in the world and I still won't identify with her. Does that make sense?

Hm. That's a good one...

It varies a lot for me, tbh. It depends on the kind of fic. But yes, with some characters (and especially these characters in specific scenarios) then I do identify. I think this is why I read less than earlier. When I started reading fic I didn't feel that way.

I think this is also why I write more femmeslash than I read ;-)

I can relate to characters if they're experiencing something I've experienced (I guess that's kind of obvious). In kinkfic I guess I do identify with subs a lot because, having experienced similar feelings myself, it gives me a new appreciation for the smut.

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